Curse

entropy · Nov 12, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56

they flee like cowards believe me I tested this over and over.

Enix · Nov 12, 2005, 06:08 PM // 18:08

I like the fact that monsters and especially henchmen respond more intellegently to AoE, but some shouldnt respond so quickly or to certain spells (e.g. single-strike AoEs ice spikes and cry of frustration should not cause the AoE scatter)

kareel · Nov 12, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16

entropy, have you even logged IN since the nov11 update?

MSecorsky · Nov 12, 2005, 06:25 PM // 18:25

It makes things much more challenging. Smites are not behaving predictably. General pain in the ass.

I like it.

Guthra · Nov 12, 2005, 06:30 PM // 18:30

I voted for not compromising, and not liking it.

They basically killed my fun of farming zounds of griffins and minotaurs at once.
Before that, they killed my ability to run to Droknar's Forge, by giving them damn golems Ice Spike too, or what ever it's name is.
Now, it is even easier to run, than original.
I feel like they're taking the piss out of the people who used to run.
It required more 'skills'. Now it's a stupid pingpong game. Cast AoE spells and persuers run away. *thumbs up*.

They ruin the game, and I'm not buying the second chapter unless they I know they won't let it be like this in the end too.
I don't mind that they changed it in general. I mind it cause once you're level 20, with 3 mill exp. ...... Why would you want to do a quest, with 50k exp reward???
There is nothing to do when you're level 20 really. If they added more content to us, and with some special rewards, not them silly exp ones. It would most likely be much more fun to play, considering they just took out farming, which I found enjoyable.

eiji84 · Nov 12, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39

While I understand that the update was implemented to put a stop to the vast ammounts of "ebay gold" that is out there, I also believe that it screws players over just trying to make a buck in the game.
Yes, I know many of you will disagree with that, but the economy in the game is far from perfect. With out farming, many players cant afford ANYTHING. I know other peeps will say: "But this makes it so not just anyone can get godly weapons and the like." Ok, sure. But it also takes a lot more than just farming griffs to get one of those. I think the economy itself is the problem, not just the ammount of gold floating around in it.
Also, I know that this build promotes playing with other peeps, but what if your guild isnt on? Most of the people Ive played with outside my guild are idiots. The one thing I CAN say for the build is, most of the people that dont take the game seriously will quit cause of this build.
Well, Ive said what I want to say, chastise me if you want. Its my opinion and I really dont care if you disagree.

ldisc66 · Nov 12, 2005, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Dunno if other people are experiencing bad spawns, alot of bad spawns. Fellow guildie tried to make a run to Droks, and now theres like TONS of worms, they followed her all the way to the portal at snake dance. Then there was thristy rivers by the time u had to reach the 2nd and 3rd teams, both teams armies were right at the fricking begining. So much for hugging the wall. We lost - went back in and happended again (not all but I'd say 2 or 3 of the other teams army was on us), lost again only becuase since the update I've been lagging bad, at first I thought it was my connection but I pinged a couple of WoW and SWG servers and everything was good. This being done btw on Saturday nov12 12pESt. I think the new AI is sucking all the cpu time out of the servers.

Exile · Nov 12, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02

I think this patch is great. As someone else said earlier, if you and your friends were standing in a tight group and fire started raining from the sky, you wouldn't just stand there and get burned. You and your friends would run like hell in all directions to get away.

AoE works fine if you're not stubborn and unwilling to make a little adjustment. As for the creatures not endlessly following you, just means you have to spend a little extra time killing them is all. The only over reaction I've seen is from those who have stated they refuse to make an adjustment and will no longer play because of this update.

AllState · Nov 12, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by unienaule

That makes absolutely no sense. Farming = repetitive action that you do over time. Without farming, you actually have to use skill to kill mobs and get rich.

It makes perfect sense. Are you telling me that you can go with a group a get rich faster them me soloing in the UW to get the armor that I want or the weapons I may need? Are you telling me that with a group, you can get the collector items faster in the desert then I could if I solo'd?

I can make more money in a weekend (2 days) my way, then you can your way in 2 months.

olegthemighty · Nov 12, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

I think this attempt to curb farming is not very well thought out. Specifically, I'm talking about sorrow's furnace and the green item farming. By making it more difficult for people to get these boss-only drops, Anet is only going to cause their value to skyrocket (except for the fire elemental gear I guess

) So how am I, average joe with only 15 plat to my name, going to afford a good sword staff? well I guess I have to farm now, only it takes 3 times as long to farm drakes or other mobs since their mothers won't let them get too far away from home...

It's called laissez-faire economy, and if you try to change or regulate things too much, nobody's going to be happy.

If Anet wants to make it harder for us to get decent gear, maybe they should set up an auction/shop system so I can sell the water staff that I'll never use so I can buy that sword I'll never manage to get myself.

(edit) I also would like to note a couple flaws in Henchie AI that I noticed yesterday. Mainly their AI is not improved, it's just changed a little to make them better at running away from firestorms. Yesterday I was in a guild group and we grabbed a healer and prot henchie since we only had 6 guildies on at that time. After a fight, one of our warriors was poisoned, and both of the henchies were hexed with some silly -2 degen or something. They ran around trying to get away from their hex, while my teammate died from poison. Seriously the whole team, except the henchies was standing still for 7 seconds watching this teammate die. improved AI? I don't think so.

T1Cybernetic · Nov 12, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Ard Wen

Anet needs to get rid of the patch for at least a few weeks to reevaluate the sitution. The idea of what they were doing was decent, but it was implemented terribly. The AI just runs around like a stupid chicken everytime it gets hit. This makes em stupider not smarter.

I have to agree, i've just played about 5 hours straight and i am getting
nowhere fast, it seems to be taking me forever to kill anything, all
my elemental "fire" skillz are practicaly useless since the update and alot
of the other aoe skillz are just wasted server space now, .

Im all for updates and improving the game and i havent had a problem with
any of the updates in the past, including all the farming "nerfing" although
i do alot of farming on both my guildwars accounts but this update has
most definately ruined alot of skillz not farming skillz but essential day
to day pve & pvp skillz that alot of people were using.

It's ok to say "change ele to water" or "change your ele to earth" but there still
leaves a perfectly good fire set of skillz useless that nobody will want to use anymore?

calamitykell · Nov 12, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by olegthemighty

By making it more difficult for people to get these boss-only drops, Anet is only going to cause their value to skyrocket (except for the fire elemental gear I guess

)

lol!! Sorry, I'm not disagreeing, I just found it hilarious to be pointed out. Hahaha

3lite · Nov 12, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

just return it to like it was...it was just fine like it was...help keep everyone happy

Mysterial · Nov 12, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

That one-shot AoE spells cause them to run is a bug, and will hopefully be fixed soon.

Yesterday night's update fixed it just fine as far as I can see. Monsters didn't run away from Fireball anymore, and had a delayed reaction to Meteor Shower, such that I got one hit and then they escaped. Looks like now it's working fine to me.

creedence · Nov 12, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

i am not in favor of this patch at all . i can see what they were try to do by making the game more interesting or what ever but i though the game was better with out the patch update. especialy for monks and elementalists. i enjoyed my monk warrior i just started untill they came out with the new update. now im just finding myself frusterated not being able to kill all the freaking healers and necro AI. so i really hope they change it

Crotalus · Nov 12, 2005, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

I just noticed a sand drake running outside his own ward against melee to avoid an aoe spell, and stay outside when engaged again.

What an impressive ai

I guess you have never fought Sand Drakes before. I have seen them cast the ward and run out of it to beat on some team mates (Alesia). This was before the update.

dpcash · Nov 12, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

If you are level 20 and completed the game, what's left to do if you can't farm? Just sit back and wait for Guild Wars 2, or start playing something else? I think I will be looking for a new game. Thanks Anet for screwing up the best game ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Venus · Nov 12, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by dpcash

If you are level 20 and completed the game, what's left to do if you can't farm? Just sit back and wait for Guild Wars 2, or start playing something else? I think I will be looking for a new game. Thanks Anet for screwing up the best game ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they just fixed it....

Crotalus · Nov 12, 2005, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by dpcash

If you are level 20 and completed the game, what's left to do if you can't farm? Just sit back and wait for Guild Wars 2, or start playing something else? I think I will be looking for a new game. Thanks Anet for screwing up the best game ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You PvP, whether it be in the random/team arenas or in the Tomb.

I am sorry if this is the first time you realize that this game has a very limited PvE experience.

Torment · Nov 12, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Well, thanks for that. But the PvP is very limited as well. There are many combinations for a team in PvP and so on and so forth. But if you enjoy the PvE the farming is a way to keep playing while waiting for GW2 and PvP gets old after awhile.